r/Bitcoin 21d ago Silver 2 Gold 1 Helpful 2

Why gardening should appeal to all bitcoiners

  1. It has high yield. For example half a potato in the ground can produce 4-5 potatoes in a few months. 500% yield
  2. There are no taxes on food you grow and eat yourself
  3. Growing food and selling it is a great way to kick start a local bitcoin economy
  4. The coming bitcoin softfork is called Taproot
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u/Eislemike 21d ago edited 20d ago

If you are going to garden do fruits and berries. High production, significantly better tasting than grocery store, and low maintenance. Particularly Blueberries, Figs, Persimmons, kiwi berries, scuppernong grapes, pomegranates(buy a juicer), raspberries(needs raised planter), blackberries, asparagus, herbs all require very little maintenance(except training the blackberries, grapes, and kiwi) and provide Gallons of food each and taste WAY better.

Strawberries, leaf greens, and veggies take more effort, more frequent planting/watering/fertilizing, and most taste similar to grocery store except tomatoes and strawberries.

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u/Unsilent_SoCalipede 21d ago

Protip for folks reading this: keep blackberries and raspberries in their own separate and large pots to have a high yield. But most importantly, DO NOT let them sprout in your ground lest you want all your property and surrounding areas to be completely overtaken by them. Getting rid of overgrown black/raspberry plants is nearly impossible without digging up every inch of soil around.

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u/Slapshot382 21d ago

Thanks for the tips, we should all strive to become more self sufficient. Good work!

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u/KaydeeKaine 21d ago

I feel rather ashamed of myself that I'd starve if it weren't for supermarkets.

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u/noza2003 21d ago

This has so much more importance than you realise right now. Learning to grow your own stuff in the coming years will be paramount.

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u/superm8n 20d ago

And the supermarkets have most of their stuff trucked in from outside of the area or other countries. They themselves are dependent on things that are not local.

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u/SirSkittles111 21d ago

Raspberries are pretty high maintenance unless you want them to sprout literally everywhere within a month

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u/Eislemike 21d ago

I keep mine in wood raised 4x4x4 planters. They don’t spread and you barely ever need to water them. I don’t think I even touched it this year. Also using the Brazzleberry raspberry which is more clumping.(raspberry Shortcake I believe is the name)

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u/SirSkittles111 21d ago

I keep mine in wood raised 4x4x4 planters.

In this case theyd be pretty much zero maintenance, ofcourse. But for people planting directly into the ground and not in raised planters, things can get a little hectic and pretty quick

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u/turtleduck777 21d ago

Watch out if you have pets in your yard, some dogs can get very sick from grapes.

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u/QuickChronic 21d ago

Cries in Canadian

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u/Bumblidumbly 20d ago

Yes, strawberries take time and the first years harvest is low. But there's nothing like a fresh strawberry. Plus you just buy one plant and the runners will result on multiple plants within a year. Planted some last year, they survived the Chicago winter, and produced delicious berries this year

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u/nullc 18d ago

I second the recommendation of fruit trees. Once established they require very little attention, especially if you don't mind getting lower yields in some years.

Last year we got 70 lbs of figs from two trees, this year only 25lbs. Cherry plumb yield was a total bust, though we don't irrigate the plumb trees. We had maybe 35 lbs last year. Apple yield was good, though we don't bother weighing the apples.

Blackberries ... they're like tentacle monsters from anime, thorny monster bushes going everywhere. Worse, when they're engaging in a lot of vegetative growth they don't seem to fruit much.

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u/midmagic 13d ago

There's a really good argument that blackberry bushes are actually carnivorous.

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u/Eislemike 18d ago

I just espalier the blackberry against my garage in a 3’ wide bed. Makes it easy.

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u/NinjahBob 20d ago

I'm going all in on strawberries. Last year I bought 3 on clearance cos they were half dead. 2 survived, multiplied, and this year I got ~30 plants and we are just moving in to summer, started picking fresh berries yesterday.

1 year, 1000% gains. Invest in strawberries.

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u/tommytookatuna 20d ago

I love blackberries, but I don’t eat them if they come from a grocery store.

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u/Aaront23 20d ago

Old house had rasberry bush. Grew by itself every year and didn't have any raised planter

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u/RedditTooAddictive 21d ago

Finally a good post

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u/DiaBrave 21d ago Silver

Posts can be used to make fences which protect the crops.

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u/ultron290196 21d ago

Chaching!

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u/HerpTurtleDoo 21d ago

I garden and I like bitcoin, logic works out.

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u/TheGreatMuffin 21d ago Helpful

5. You can plant Merkle trees

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u/jcoinner 21d ago

Love them Merkle Berries.

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u/Typical-Field-4277 21d ago

Mmmm, yes the roots make a tasty treat.

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u/Smok_eater 21d ago

Is this a joke?

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u/exab 21d ago

Yes, it's a technical/nerdy joke.

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u/BitcoinFan7 21d ago

But they want your unrealized gains, taxing you on potatoes that are still in the ground.

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u/redinator92 21d ago

It goes even further than that. They will tax you on the land before you even plant a single seed! Talk about unrealized gains

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u/Smok_eater 21d ago

I thought land was just to sir on top of not to use in any sustainable regenerative way

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u/freeradicalx 21d ago

US government forcing USD on it's citizen thus making them vulnerable to the erosion of USD value, there's a probably-insensitive England/Ireland potato famine analogy in here somewhere.

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u/Ok_Weekend_4773 redditor for 3 months 21d ago

But only of you are already holding billions of dollars in potatoes. Otherwise, you won't be impacted

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u/rhaphazard 21d ago

It starts with the billions. Then they'll come for those with a million potatoes. Soon they'll be knocking on your door to take half of the one potato you have left.

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u/Ok_Weekend_4773 redditor for 3 months 21d ago

Not true. Stop spreading fud

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u/rhaphazard 20d ago

I'm shorting potatoes and will spread all the fud that's necessary. /s

On a serious note, the slippery slope of wealth taxation is not fud. It's already happened in several countries and it'll happen in America if the progressives get their way.

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u/Sunzoner 20d ago

They always talks taxing about the billion potatoeairs. But they really goes after the small hodlers because the billion potatoeairs donate potatoes to the campaigns.

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u/dj_ordje 21d ago

Oh shit here comes the next meme coin trend. Todays topic: gardening.

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u/Ok-Factor-4101 redditor for 3 weeks 21d ago Take My Energy

Tater Inu

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u/hezev redditor for 7 weeks 21d ago

That is so funny.

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u/teniceguy 21d ago

I think we already had some vegetable and fruit coins

Edit: Found one https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/yam

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u/_pureguava 21d ago

I also love growing my own cannabis

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u/zombiecorp 20d ago

Anticipating that all time high.

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u/Mike-Oxwelling 21d ago

Most importantly, fruit, veggies, and home grown eggs are all susceptible to loss in boating accidents

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u/Eropin 21d ago

d gains, taxing you on potatoes that are still in the gro

Home grown eggs... You mean eggplants i hope

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u/rhaphazard 21d ago

Raising chickens at home for eggs is pretty popular.

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u/doctorblumpkin 21d ago

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u/thestephdex 21d ago

"why bitcoin should appeal to all gardeners"

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u/Mostofyouareidiots 21d ago

One of the best inflation hedges

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u/Tale_Spirited 21d ago

Growing your own food is a revolutionary act.

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u/JunoKat 21d ago edited 20d ago

I tried, unfortunately I realized that in order for 1 to become 5 potatoes, the work and the time and the potential products that I need to buy to make that happen cost 100x the return :p

It’s fun, but I make a lost every single time

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u/amretardmonke 21d ago

Like bitcoin mining, its only economically viable if you scale it up a bit. 1 plant is a lot of time and effort for low yield. 10 plants might require 2x time and effort for 10x yield.

And like bitcoin mining, there's a high upfront cost for land, tools, and supplies.

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u/JunoKat 21d ago

where I live land is super expensive though, so I can only do this as a hobby - an expensive one, for now.

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u/MoodNo9836 redditor for 7 weeks 21d ago

Gardening appeals to individuals with low time preference who think the future will be better than the present. Someone going to McDonalds regularly has given up on life and the world.

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u/josh_sat 21d ago

speaking of I just built a second green house and am growing a substantial amount of leafy greens for the winter. Empty store shelves are a motivating factor but I will take into mind that selling excess for btc is a good idea

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u/dbudlov 21d ago

Hard agree, also Google permaculture and watch some Geoff Lawson videos etc... You will learn a lot, so many lesser known techniques out there for easy and efficient growing outside of the mainstream monoculture methods, most bitcoiners should know govt is the problem and self responsibility is the solution, which includes growing our own food and raising our own animals etc... At least until we can move away from authoritarianism and centralization, toward decentralization and freer markets/libertarianism

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u/glasswiper69 21d ago

I grew up in a village and we had all sorts of veggies and fruit trees. Last year I gave my shot at growing marijuana and boy, it was the best 90 grams of my life.

I had to move back to the city because of my fucking job, but I hope one day, thanks to bitcoin, I will be able to live a self-sustaining life free of fucking supermarkets and their shitty produce

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u/Condottier redditor for 3 weeks 21d ago

Take the carrot pill.

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u/TyranaSoreWristWreck 21d ago

Tough pill to swallow, but I'm told it's good for your eyes

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u/Any-name-will-do-plz 21d ago

Planted potato's in my parents house years ago(U.K).. till this day they are still growing year after year of thinking we dug them all up another 5 plants appear. So yeah I agree with this sentiment because like bitcoin no-one in the house cares about the potato's but they bring me profit year in year out don't even need to care for them at this point it's all self sufficient.

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u/MenacingMelons 21d ago

Damn thanks for the reminder OP, I need to start buying supplies for planter boxes!

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u/ABCRYPTO33 21d ago Take My Energy

Don’t forget linseed oil! Put used cardboard on the bottom before filling with soil to keep weeds / grass from growing up underneath.

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u/MenacingMelons 20d ago

This is why I love Reddit right here.

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u/SHA256dynasty 21d ago

i planted a big potato last year and it grew a smaller potato

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u/Fittiboy 21d ago

I jumped down the rabbit hole and I'm currently checking out r/Permaculture. I love this.

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u/New-Low-6827 21d ago

It’s a cult

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u/Fittiboy 21d ago

Perfect, time to dive deeper!

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u/Georgia_The_Jungle 21d ago

Thanks Mark Watney

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u/AMPed101 21d ago

I mostly grow plants that are not strictly allowed, but you could call me somewhat of a gardener lol.

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u/twolead 20d ago

It's pronounced "beet-coin", right?

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u/Mike-Oxwelling 21d ago

Since I hate cucumbers, would they be considered a shit coin?

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u/Brutuscapuspulus 21d ago

Mark Wahlberg on Mars :)

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u/parthCMON 21d ago

‘Seeds will be the new currency’- Bill, The Big Short

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u/Winterbones8 21d ago

Not the sort of post I expected in this sub, but I love it. Avid gardener here too. It's good to get outside and get your hands dirty. And saving some extra funds to invest is a nice little bonus.

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u/freeradicalx 21d ago edited 21d ago

Not the top post I expected to see this morning, but a very welcome one! I grow random veggies in my apartment building's side lot, and an entire room of my apartment is almost wholly devoted to my indoor DWC hydro garden (All leafy greens like arugula and spinach and tatsoi, no fruiting veggies yet but thinking of trying that next year).

OP is being silly but probably also appreciates the truth behind their post. Gardening is planning in advance for a fruitful future, that almost handles itself for you so long as you understand what you're doing and set things up right, and lets you help yourself and the people around you with the gains you were insightful enough to make. But also, should shit hit the fan politically, both bitcoin and your garden got your back.

I've actually pondered before how FOSS and gardening weirdly overlap.

edit - One thing I wouldn't recommend planting is tulips ;)

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u/realabrar 21d ago

lol this is the best comparison I've ever seen. And you do not depend on large companies and banks (shops with not the best quality food) due to the fact that you keep funds for usdt (you grow everything in the garden)

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u/Okcicad 21d ago

I just started gardening with my grandmother this past year. Can't wait for spring to come round so I can try to grow some stuff on my own.

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u/nullama 21d ago

I think gardening was partially involved in the closing of The Silk Road

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u/Smokin_Hashrates 21d ago

My hoes and I have been gardening for years. The older ones are especially easy to use.

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u/nine8whatwhat 21d ago

i'll just hire people to garden for me while i drive around in my lambo

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u/Smok_eater 21d ago

Doesn't seem like you eat real food anyways so what would you care might as well just pay someone to make you a fucking robot and you wouldn't even have to eat food in pill form

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u/Hefty_Jicama 21d ago

Hunting is an even better return

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u/Menutz 21d ago

Root cellar.

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u/ky00b 20d ago

gardening

I thought this was going to be about burying your seed phrase somewhere in the yard and then drawing yourself a little treasure map.

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u/massreport 20d ago

You better be stocking up on food or starting a garden. Not a whole lot of Boomer farmers out there will be participating in the crypto network... It's more of a Millennial, Gen Z thing. And these 2 generations are broke and cheering for more government.

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u/PoeCollector 20d ago

As a software guy, I am used to fixing any problems by coding a patch which takes effect right away. Tending plants has been a good way to practice patience. Sometimes you do some research and a very small amount of actual work, like how to transplant, or how much fertilizer is optimal for your particular plant. Then you have to wait weeks to even see if you did it correctly. In that regard, it is a lot like investing in disruptive tech. Only time will tell if you know what you're doing, and for now, there isn't any more work you can do to improve the result.

Also, gardening is one of the most wholesome, least toxic internet spaces. The youtube channels for example are just so relaxing and simple compared to the rest of life.

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u/ItsSomethingNot 21d ago

Here is a counter argument.

It has high maintenance costs while bitcoin has nearly non. For me, this is probably one of the most appealing aspects of holding bitcoin compared to other assets/investments/businesses/activities.

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u/nullc 18d ago

For growing fruit the at the level which you and family can consume on your own the level of ongoing effort is very low. ... takes more work to keep your computer security practices up to date. Though you can store a lot more wealth in Bitcoin in total. :)

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u/ItsSomethingNot 18d ago edited 18d ago

My family does grow fruits and veggies for our own use, however, I will disagree that it requires low effort. It probably depends from place to place, but it seems like every year we encounter some problems that require quite a lot of effort to look after our food. For example, we sometimes get summers with very little rain, meaning we have to water our veggies, then we sometimes get lots of potato beetles that we either have to choose to use chemicals or manually take them off. Sometimes we do get very strong rain or even hail, where we have to cover-up of veggies, and sometimes we get temperature drops, where again we have to cover our plants. These are perks to live in the middle of the Europe.

Growing food for your own use could be harder than it seems, especially when you grow number of different cultures (since you don't want to eat same thing every day). For example, in the past year I and my family really needed to put some work, while I had btc stored at the same time and did not had to do anything about it, it was just securely sitting there and appreciating in value.

To sum-up: I had both, btc and growing food for the past 4 years (for own use only). The amount of effort between these two were incomparably massive, even I spent a lot of time making sure I store btc securely. In these 4 years btc provided by far more value by appreciating, than we got from our own food. That was my experience, and few other people that I know.

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u/Smok_eater 21d ago

False. If you count water in your home or water you use like Frey water that can be reused and plastic bags you throw awaycan be turned into planters and soil is abundant so false gardening has low costs if done properly

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u/Smok_eater 21d ago

I don't think you're talking about maintenance I think you're talking about level of effort required is it required to procure and in your case just in your case just because you can purchase a coin at a lower price at a different time has nothing to do with maintenance has to do with the amount of effort you're willing to work for your things which is 0

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u/amretardmonke 21d ago

1 potato x 5 = 5 potato

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u/amretardmonke 21d ago

No because you can't buy half a potato.

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u/cookmanager 20d ago

I will sell half a potato

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u/jakecoolguy 21d ago

First post here in a while to make me laugh out loud

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u/motion_writing 21d ago

This is great

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u/GodoftheGodcreators 21d ago

There should be finite amount of potatoes and digging them should require more work. Not interested

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u/Smok_eater 21d ago

There is only what this earth can produce and also it is hard as fuck

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u/GodoftheGodcreators 20d ago

Hard as fuck? Dig a shovel and pick em. You ain't hard, boi. That's just regular gardening

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u/apostolosfilippos84 21d ago

I am farming shitcoins.

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u/mbrochh 21d ago

5) You'll soon have no other way to obtain food that isn't some kind of poisoned fiat sludge that will slowly kill you, so better get into hydroponics and raise a few chickens while it's still all fun and games.

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u/dipsy9 21d ago

Yeah that's sound very relatable to me

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u/RobertGOTV 21d ago

Why can't I hold all these potatoes?

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u/Gravy4Tendies redditor for 3 months 21d ago

If you’re allowed, growing weed also yields similar results.

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u/Bitcoin_is_plan_A 21d ago

There are no taxes on food you grow and eat yourself

don´t give them ideas lol

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u/jacobburrell 21d ago

Absolutely why I am totally in love with the idea of something like farmbot.

I know little about gardening/farming though it's a key part of being a truly sovereign individual. Your keys, your electricity, your land, your sustainable water system, your sustainably produced food.

These systems are incredibly complicated to setup though. Each is a complete speciality.

What we need is a coordinated system that will make this easy. You should be able to have turn key homes that come with a sovereign setup and the option through a properly design decentralised governance system for maintaining it.

Doing everything yourself all the time manually isn't something that scales.

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u/chaachaachemist 21d ago

Self sufficiency is awesome!

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u/LegWorkIsRealWork 21d ago

Gardening is good for the environment... oh wait sorry

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u/ya_mu 21d ago

There are no taxes on food you grow and eat yourself

Yet.

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u/LilliProfits 21d ago

I already garden, it’s a great hobby and gives you something to check on everyday that isn’t a chart. Plus it can be nearly self sustaining if you allocate resources correctly.

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u/Bitcoiner2017 21d ago

Cancel point 2. Don’t give the government some wild ideas

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u/MIP_PL 21d ago

Bitcoiners are more into boats.

Even if accident rate is relatively high.

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u/Smok_eater 21d ago

Can you explain the third more I have been wanting to but don't know how to start please anyone this is what I need help with to bring awareness in my cities

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u/KSRP2004 21d ago

LMAO I actually love gardening!

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u/Ph0T0m 21d ago

And don't forget to store your seeds safely because other gardeners will steal it from you.

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u/Swimming-Outside-290 21d ago

Both great if you've got seed money.

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u/guido_lois 21d ago

Let’s Go! To the moon!

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u/AdaireEisen 21d ago

I have not heard such a comparison yet:D

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u/factory-worker 21d ago

And why gardeners hate bitcoin..... Did everyone forget about fossil fuels?

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u/PieckIsExactlyRight 21d ago

That's ignoring the opportunity costs for time spent and supplies used.

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u/warriorlynx 20d ago

It’s an amazing thing isn’t it

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u/Remarkable_Capital39 20d ago

If your going to garden I suggest using pesticides as gardening yourself can be very dangerous and harmful if not done right.

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u/SaltLifeDPP 20d ago

I'm using my Bitcoin to trade for a homestead. Chestnuts and chickens and pigs in my future. 🥰

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u/Material_Swimmer2584 20d ago

No chipmunks eating BTC

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u/tofu4life_ 20d ago

Favorite crossover of all time

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u/blueberry-yogurt 20d ago

There are no taxes on food you grow and eat yourself

[laughs in Wickard v. Filburn]

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u/mcnello 20d ago

Your forgetting about the costs of gardening: You have to actually have space to plant, buy fertilizer, pay water, and most importantly your time spent doing all of these activities. I’m not knocking it, but treat it more like a hobby rather than something that is economical, because it is not economical on a small scale at the moment. If inflation continues to take off and/or there there are food shortages, then I will agree with you.

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u/Think_Cat7703 redditor for 6 weeks 20d ago

the government doesn't know what you bought at the store because your tatoes are noKYC.

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u/No-Fee6610 20d ago

Sorry, doesn't appeal to me. Produce is not borderless, finite, censorship resistant, they start to deteriorate after a while, are difficult to store in significant amounts and the market is only local oppossed to btc markets which are global. So they basically have non of the values that made me change my fiat shit into bitcoin

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u/jam-hay 20d ago

100%... never thought I'd see the day where a gardening post went to page one of the this sub.

Kinda awesome in a wholesome way.

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u/moon_then_mars 20d ago

Gardening is labor intensive. You gotta plow, till, plant, fertilize, water, weed, water, water, water, weed, harvest, etc. Can't we automate home gardens?

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u/3rdeyeopenwide 20d ago

I spent <$500 in supplies for an outdoor grow and $500 on a rosin press. Ended up with 1-1/4 lbs. of outdoor cannabis. Considering dispensers prices, I’m looking at 600% roi and all the rosin I can smoke and trim I can cook.

Not getting ripped off appeals to all Bitcoiners.

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u/deepspace8 14d ago

I don't understand this. I thought r/bitcoin was supposed to be about bitcoin-related stuff. I've been seeing a lot of garbage like this in my feed and email notifications. Do I just need to block the users making these kinds of posts?

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u/Idc200017 21d ago

I thought we had to all join the carnivore diet. All plants and carbs are fiat food.

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u/The_Thrill17 21d ago

I can’t just throw a few plants in the ground and come back 5 years later to a fucking mansion.

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u/Smok_eater 21d ago

Whatever you say I mean that's what I'm ficking doing cannabis is like 2k a p